![]() The backup system has worked both times in my situation. I have found it necessary to restore a backup twice in the 10 years that I have been using LrC. If using a catalog is not something you want to do then Lightroom Classic is not what you want to be using. The only way to have a copy of the image that includes all of the adjustments is to export that copy. The images themselves (the master images) are never modified. The catalog keeps track of where the images are located on your computer as well as all the adjustment's made to the images. If you are going to use Lightroom Classic then your only alternative is to use a catalog because the only file Lightroom opens is the catalog. Or any other programs (basically anything without a corruptible database). ![]() I'm not anti Adobe - maybe I should just use Camera Raw and Photoshop? I am not sure how camera raw saves the edits? Hopefully not a database? Are they editable? and then further edits would be saved in (large) PSD files. Second question - what are the alternatives - for good quality photoediting without a catalogue/database system? I thought about Photo DXO but a cursory investigation suggests that it also has a database - which is also likely to be prone to corruption. If I understand it the edits are saved in there - so do i need a catalogue at all? Can i use it without? If not - at least if a catalogue is corrupt can i just import all my images and XMP files into a new clean catalogue and my edits will be preserved? So - my first question is - can one use it without a catalogue? I use it with XMP files. (At one point it even tried to import a years old Adobe Elements catalogue which I never used!) But I would have thought some kind of message about "can't open the catalogue it is corrupt" would help. I assume that Adobe is aware of that but there are strong reasons to have it. It seems to me inevitable that a database is a weak link here and is going to get corrupted. Do people just accept that this sort of thing happens? For me it is strange - i don't really have an hour here or there to give to this sort of thing. (Just before this the Adobe agent abandoned the call - I assume he'd got exhausted by all this as well). In the end I deleted all catalogues including all backups except one backup which I renamed 'bananas' and after rebooting it opened with that catalogue. This was quite an ordeal - it kept trying to open it with previous catalgues. Then i got on a call with a support agent who talked me through trying to open it with a backup catalogue. At first I assumed it was the program so I uninstalled and reinstalled that.
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